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Personally, I like that we are donating all the money to ONE charity. It's like everyone is uniting to contribute to something, together, and the donation is bigger! I say adamantly - DO NOT CHANGE WHAT YOU ARE DOING HERE. I do not like GoodSearch because of that feature. I like knowing I am contributing with everyone else, to the same cause. --Those were really encouraging words. Thanks.--Syed Robin from Seattle Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 1:01:54 PM That's tough... while we have such low revenue it's hard to make the choose-your-own search work because no charity , it seems, will get a significant enough money at all until our revenue greatly increases. Obviously, if people could choose their own charity, they may be more motivated to use and promote the site. However, I think because anyone can submit a charity for voting, I think the voting option should motivate people just as much or more to visit the site frequently (and promote it) in order to accumulate votes here for their favorite charity even when they would not already be coming here to search. And since money is generated per page view and not per search, the voting brings in money, too. So I am not sure that allowing people to choose their own charity is quite necessary yet, but I am not certain. Also one suggestion- I think it would be good for you to have an individual "comment wall" for each blog entry, for people that want to make coments/questions regarding that entry. --I tend to agree with you, Stoney. And I'll add that last part to the list. Thanks.--Syed Stoney229 from MO Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 4:04:52 AM I definitely think the one thing that goodsearch.com has as a major plus over searchkindly.org is the ability for each user to choose to whom the money goes. I'm going to be marching in a drum corps this summer, and the corps (not for profit, by the way) has registered with goodsearch so that a penny for every search gets donated to the corps... and they do a fairly good job of publicizing it. Members, staff, parents, friends, etc all use it to help raise money for the corps for better equipment, food, transportation, housing, etc while the group travels. Other corps do this too. When I get done there I'll probably use it to generate money for organizations dealing with issues important to me- various health organizations, etc. Everyone cares about different issues... goodsearch allows each person to choose. If this feature were on searchkindly, I'd consider switching. Why hasn't that feature been adopted, out of curiosity? Well, it's something that Ramadev and I discussed awhile back...and we spent a good bit of time talking about it, too. He really wanted to implement the system to allow it to happen, but at this time, I mean, we're really not raising all that much money, so I thought it would be best to focus our finite resources on individual causes. But maybe I'm wrong? I guess another reason that we didn't want to open up things up to every charity under the sun was because, well, I wanted to address those that covered basic human needs first...but maybe I'm going about this all wrong. Hey, I'd love to hear what all of you have to say about this. If this is something that is really important to everyone, then it's definitely an issue that Ramadev and I have to talk about again. And maybe sooner rather than later. Looking forward to hearing from all of you--Syed Anonymous from IL Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 1:01:07 AM You definitely got to get that Google account back. My guess is that you'll have to show them that the system cannot be abused. So maybe you could limit the revenue gained per IP address to say like ten searches in an hour,and 50 in a 24 hour period. People will still be able to search as much as they like..it's just the advertisers won't have to worry about people typing "asdfa" and pressing "search" a thousand times. 2 cents a search had to be sweet. By the way, can't wait to see buy kindly:) Ilya from Chicago, IL Tuesday, March 20, 2007 at 12:12:05 AM If goodsearch can make money through pure search ..why can't you have that feature on searchkindly in addition to what you got now? They say that 1cent per search goes to charity..if you could do the same this would generate much more additional revenue then just having ads on here. --Actually, they don't make money through pure search. They make money through the clicks they receive on their "sponsored results". I put the term in quotes because they really don't do a lot to differentiate the sponsored results from the actual results--the paid results are kind of blended in (which I think is kind of shady). And, of course, they are also using Yahoo to power their search feature, which I think is inferior to Google (and so do most of the Search Kindly volunteers, judging from the data from the survey). In my opinion, I think Search Kindly has to provide something of value--in addition to allowing volunteers to donate for free. I may be wrong about this, but I think that thing of value is the Google search. Now, if we wanted to, we could go with a totally sponsored search engine, but then everyone would get annoyed because they couldn't find any relevant information about the things they were looking up...and then they'd stop searching kindly. You know? But to comment on the way that GoodSearch generates money--we used to have the same deal with Google. Our donation per-search (or per pageview, however you want to look at it) was, at one point in time, almost 2-cents. Wow, those were the good ol' days. But then Google said that there were some people who were clicking fraudulently, so they shut that particular revenue stream down. We used to raise twice as much per search/pageview as GoodSearch, but things kind of took a downturn. But thats not to say that they can't swing back up again. Like I've said in the past, once we hit $2000 in one month, I'm going to go begging and pleading to Google to give us our account back. Hopefully some of you will be able to give me a hand when the time comes. Oh, and by the way, GoodSearch also keeps half of what they raise for themselves. They're a for-profit company, which is the complete opposite of what we are. Search Kindly is a non-profit organization (we're in the process of applying for 501c(3) status from the IRS) and all of the money that we raise through advertising is donated to charity. Thanks for the comment--Syed Josh from Nevada Monday, March 19, 2007 at 9:09:46 PM I'd like to echo the concern posted on the wall a few days ago. I too think it's very important for you to state on the site that the searches don't generate any money for the charities. Does anyone out there disagree? --Yeah, I guess this has come up a couple times. I know that it isn't searches per se that generate the donations, but for all intents and purposes, isn't it the search-feature that actually draws the crowd? I mean, if we didn't have the search box, why would people keep returning to the site? Or am I reading this the wrong way; are you just talking about little note on the results-page? Also, if possible, can someone highlight the areas where I might be a little confusing in how I am explaining Search Kindly. Of course it all makes perfect sense to me, but I have kind of a biased perspective on things, you know?--Syed Candice from Florida Monday, March 19, 2007 at 5:05:18 PM I completely agree that Buy Kindly should be given more attention and appreciate that you are planning a full-fledged version of it. My mother makes most of her purchases online and rarely goes a day without buying atleast one item. I doubt that she is the only example of this so I believe that the profit from Buy Kindly could be quite staggering if implemented correctly. --Believe you me, we're giving it our all to get it up and running as soon as possible.--Syed New But Optimistic from Ky Monday, March 19, 2007 at 1:01:32 PM I think you guys could make a lot more money if you redesigned the site to highlight the Buy Kindly idea more prominently. Specifically, I'm envisioning a portal where people could launch all of their online shopping from easily and quickly. I think you should put the web store links directly under the Google search bar so that it's very easy to get to. I know a lot of people purchase at least one thing online every month (books, vitamins, food, clothes, electronics, etc.). If you could get 5% of that it would surely add up.... --Hey, I agree with you completely. We're actually in the process of building a full-fledged BuyKindly, but it has a slightly different architecture than Search Kindly, so it's taking a little bit of time to complete and integrate into the existing framework. Hmm, you know what...maybe I should put up a list of things that all of the Volunteers would like to see added to the site...now there is no guarantee that we'd be able to implement everything, but at least it could be a central location where we could all pitch our ideas and keep track of progress. Hmm, I'll have to put that on my list. This is good stuff--thanks Dylan.--Syed Dylan Hirsch-Shell from Los Angeles, CA Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 10:10:19 PM So, does the story have to be dugg by 52 users within any 24-hour period, or by 52 users within 24 hours of the time it's posted? --Based on everything that I have read, it has to be 52 users within 24 hours of the article being submitted.--Syed Stoney229 from MO Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 6:06:24 PM There's an article on Digg.com right now about Search Kindly, but it doesn't have enough diggs yet to get to the front page. the site is http://digg.com/tech_news/Donate_to_charity_by_Searching_Google I don't know how to make a hyperlink in here, so you'll have to copy and paste (sorry). Once the story gets roughly 52 or so diggs, it will be on the front page for all to see and thousands of people will see it. So I say everyone go to the link and digg the article. It's free to join digg.com (you have to join to digg it, but don't worry, they won't send you spam e-mail or anything). This is one of those great free publicity things we've been talking about, so we need to take full advantage of it. --You're right about the fact that it only takes abotu 52 diggs to make it on to the frontpage of Digg.com, but the KEY is to have those 52 diggs all within a 24-hour period. So it would probably be best to submit a new topic and not digg the one that you mentioned. I tell you, if Search Kindly can get to the front page of Digg? That would be huge... Chris from VA Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 11:11:44 AM |
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